If we do not get initiated it is an offence to the holy name. Some people say oh god is within our heart, god is in our heart. (antaryami , paramatma)
So why do we need guru, god is in my heart. Why can not I librated without guru, without taking instructions from a guru or some high authority.
Q. Can we get liberated without guru? Can we realize god without guru?
All the shastris says that we must come to the platform of surrendering unto guru. Without taking instructions from a guru or some higher authority we don't actually know… To attain perfection with or without guru we have to surrender to God. Krsna says in Bhagvad Gita:- Sarv Mam ekam Sharnam………….
Surrender is not something material. Krsna himself is saying that you must surrender to higher authority. The main reason that we have to surrender to guru because we don't actually know whether we ar surrendered or not. We may think that are surrendered but unless we are under the shelter of living god or under the living representative of god we can not actually know that we are surrendered or not because the nature of conditioned soul is self delusioned (self delusion means that we delude our self we think us our self something that we are not ). There is a tendency to be to be illusioned. There are 4 defects, tendency to be illusioned “brahma” “vipralipsa” means the tendency to cheat, So unless we are surrendered to the living representative of god we cannot know that we are surrendered to god or not. Because surrender is not something material. Our mind is filld with different Samskaras , impressions. Acc to the actions we have in this lifetime or previous we make different impressions. Because of different samskaras which are there we rationalize our desires. The samskaras which w hav cultivated from many lifetimes will make us think that this is all right what I am doing is allright…. Not surredring to guru , not taking diksha .. it is all right. We will rationalize because of our material desires to be independent of god we will rationalize & we will tell ourself that I am all right … But who will tll at that time that desire is all right or not. You may think that I might not require a guru to get librated , god is in our heart …Sarva Dharman …..Then how do we know that we are surrendered or not , because we have a tendency to be self dellusioned , because of previous samskaras. , pious activities , we have different mindsets …. This is all right I am own guru .. you tend to rationalize our desires
Acc to Veda Purana guru is essential because without guru we wont be having any yardstick/ standard to measure that we are really surrendered or not.
SP - Religion without philosophy is sentimental and philosophy without religion is speculation.
If we stay devoid of guru or without guru shelter or diksha then we may think. Oh I am chanting Hare Krsna Iam doing quite well I am a vegetarian now and my mind is quite peaceful, my mind is satvik and balanced and I see Iam equipoised and I read the bhagvad gita and I think I have this vision –vidhya vinayak sampade ….
He see elephant, Brahaman and Dog eater, he see somehow equally. They are different body but everybody there is parmatma. Iam doing will I don't need guru. So I think actually I am librated. There is no Raj guna in me no Tamo guna . I am actually God. Aham Narayan,Narayan Narayan.
Ques.:- Who would tell us actually we librated or not?
Ans. :- We may think like that , many people get into_trasecendeantal course but if Iam actually librated my intelligence would be so pure there that I will figure out the right path of action and if I am not librated that means I am still within the three modes of nature that means Iam still covered by the three Guna, I influenced , some influence of passion or even goodness, goodness itself is also binding. Krsna says one becomes conditioned by the sense of happiness.
This is an intoxication of satvguna. You doing yoga your body is satvik you are thinking high thoughts about god and this and that you may think this is actually conditioning this is an influence of satv guna. You are
conditioned by happiness and peace that satva guna brings because when you grow up entire life and raj guna and tam guna and all kinds of tamsik habbits and eating and thinking and we actually enters into the path of sat guna by yoga then we feel such relief from our previous entanglement (bondage of ignorance , bondage of passion).When you get transcendental knowledge, when you get yoga darshan, your mind starts elevate to satva guna and you start to enjoy satva guna that is all conditioning that is not librated you are also still bound. This was the problem with Narad Muni. Eg narada muni in forest had darsana of god ,akashwani that you will have darsana have only once have in lifetime why.. he had a desire to live a peaceful life in a forest …on ourslf we may mislead ourself .
Its actually impossible without taking initiation from a guru to get liberated . Vraj Bhakti is very rare its very difficult to give our own thoughts & accept without any designation or hidden motives the sastras .The process is simple but it becomes complicated because of our minds. In BG it is said if the mind is controlled its our best friend but if it is uncontrolled than its our enemy.
Que:-How do we know if the mind is controlled or uncontrolled?
Ans:- If the mind is uncontrolled that's thae worst enemy .If the mind is controlled is the best friend.
BTG CH-7 Text-14
Devyeshi guna mayi imam maya taranti tey…
“you are speaking such learned words but your are acting like fool”
Krsna says this material world is impossible._Everywhere you find tri gunas , you can't escape the 3s its th world of 3s good better large …… 3 gunas .These gunas ar mineKrsna is saying that I am above these gunas but you Arjuna and every in this world are under these gunas . But its impoosible to cross an ocean , but Krsna gives a hint that all this world is ------ of material nature .. But there is way to out there is a way to cross the ocean by Prapdyante…..
Surrender to Krsna, quickly you will be delivered, without guru who is representative of Krsna its impossible to get liberated.Krsna is saying that this Maya is mine it's very difficult to cross .This material is like a prison house .Its difficult to move ….(durga- prison house) It's impossible for men and women to swim across to magic ocean, so imagine how broad and vast is this material universe. Without guru kripa or Bhagwan kripa it is impossible.The only way possible is to surrender to him(Krsna), can only get free from maya. Take shelter of Krsna and that happens by inspiration which comes from Krsna himself. We think due to false ego we think we are very special, we think we are very qualified, we think we are intelligent and very resourceful or very able and we think we don't need anybody especially GOD. So this is of course a foolish idea, but many people have this idea but everyone gets inspiration , he gets inspired to have higher thoughts, in science its called the AHA principle … eg of scientist expd …. But we say its P-A-R-MA-T-M-A principle because the god gave the answer from within
But by good fortune gives us inspiration.We got inspired to higher thoughts something comes from within.
Que:-How do you get that inspiration?
Ans:-Inspiration comes from the association of Saints-sadhusang (Sarva mangal) Satsang
Satsang-Sadhu cut to the Asat.He cuts out the temporary and reveals the eternal.
Sadhu cuts out the ignorance (avidhya), Ignorance which covering the self. Ignorance is the tumer on the Atma.
With the sword of his(Sadhu) knowledge he cuts of the ignocance, he cuts the bhodily concept life. And reveals the atma because very inside of Sharir it's a Jivatma. This is what happen in the association with Sat personality. We hear something from sastras then we think , our thinking starts going towards god . and bhagwana becomes pleased, then he inspires us that this human life is very rare and actually you just utilize this life to realize god . In satsang will get inspiration to serve god to turn to god, to try to get librated__________
Inspiration which coming from god in heart inspire to search for guru, because we understaind that alone I can't get out.
Even god comes as a human being, RAM, PARSHURAM, KRSNA etc, he takes guru.
Vashishta was the guru of Ram
Sanpashi muni was the guru of Krsna
Ishwarpuri was the guru of Caitanya mahaprabhu, human life nees teachers.
Everyone grows in ingnorance. Ignorance is the greatest cause of suffering and misfortune.
Seek your fortune, seek and you shall find.Tath Vidhi Pratipatena……
You want to see the truth your want to have darshan but truth________49.30__________
Then you must find guru.
Pratipatena:-You must surrender Tan, Man, Dhan guru samarpan. Your life, your mind what is valuable to you give to guru. For god there is nothing valuable than you.
Any thing you have value Tan, Man, Dhan, your words, your abilities, your skills that's your contribution your gift your pushpanjali.
God given you abilities, we should offer to guru and guru offer to Krsna.She coats every offering with her heart and after coating she offers to Krsna. Krsna actually takes love not food.
Bhaktididdhanta Praphupad updeshawali A.C.Bhaktivedant updeshawali, he would say if one doesn't chant 16 rounds a day Krsna does not accept his offerings.
The holy name doesn't send our offering to Lord, our devotion doesn't send the offering to the lord but our guru sends the offering to the lord. So if we please the guru and everything we do puja we have to go through guru, even if you have Sakhi swaroop in spiritual world and your manjri swaroop even then you go through guru, there is no direct flight, you have to stop at the feet of the guru. There you can go with guru Agya and go your seva to Radhika rupa Manjri, lalita.
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